Here’s a fresh batch of opinions for you friends! I talk about and rate the weapon aspects in Hades. I know there will be many of you who disagree with my list or think that I put things in the wrong tier. Keep in mind that these are just my opinions and how I play the game, if you like a particular weapon that I don’t, remember that this is the internet. Does it really matter what I think? I love you all, thanks for watching!
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Here’s an annotation for when I talk about each Weapon:
Zagreus Sword: 2:01
Nemesis Sword: 3:19
Poseidon Sword: 6:00
Zagreus Spear: 8:07
Achilles Spear: 9:42
Hades Spear: 12:05
Zagreus Shield: 15:09
Chaos Shield: 16:36
Zeus Shield: 19:03
Zagreus Bow: 20:38
Chiron Bow: 21:55
Hera Bow: 23:01
Zagreus Rail: 24:52
Eris Rail: 26:23
Hestia Rail: 28:09
A few caveats:
-On a different day I could have placed any of these weapons up or down 1 tier easily, so don’t take my word as a solid, unmovable rock.
-When I say that a weapon aspect is “transformative” I am thinking about how the weapon used to function and whether the new weapon aspect fundamentally changes the way I play with the weapon.
– When I criticize the Hades spear so harshly it’s partially because of how sweep works but also because it is the most expensive version of the weapon. Can you have a dominant win with the Hades spear? Of course you can.
-In retrospect a few days after recording, I think Hera bow should be more like A Tier. While the effect of the bow is super cool and fun, and it has great burst, I don’t know if it is at the power level of the other S weapons. The reduced time till dislodge is nice, but it isn’t a massive buff. In fact I don’t think I even mention it in the video. It is still quite strong, since the casts go off in sequence, thus you don’t just overkill armored enemies and have to deal with the health after the fact.
-Overall I think there are a lot of very powerful, and fun options within the weapon aspects to try out. There are some I don’t like, but please don’t stop experimenting with these weapons, you might have a better experience with some of them.
-As this game is in early access, many of these things will change in future patches, keep in mind that I made this video in January of 2020.
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Yooo just beat Hades for the first time with Ares booned Zagreus Aspect Bow. For being the only resource for this game, you're doing great. Please keep it up!
i kinda felt like the video could have been under 20 minutes if you didin't talk nonsense and cut the unimportant parts out
So I'm a bit behind the times, but I swapped reload and codex binds, so reload is super easy. I mean, how often do you load the codex?
We all feel you on the aspect of Hades, a big love hate. Badass but it just doesn't work, it's pretty simple, you stand still for too long, you take dmg.. So you cant
I really feel you though almost beat hades for the first time with that weapon and really wanted to because it was his own weapon and i thought it was cool but i couldn't lol
when you say "poison" do you mean hangover from dio?
Some feedback, you are very often hitting skele with basic attacks when you are talking through other things and distracting yourself and the audience and stalling your sentences. Also game noise is a bit loud vs speech.
Really great stuff here!!
What do you think about the fisty cuffs?
What do you think about Guan Yu aspect or the infernal fist?
im seeing a bug where empowered happens once per encounter which is kind of lame. it does happen without manually reloading. idk if they added this but when you special you reload. I find this handy for reloading in hectic situations or when i forget to reload since i spam those motars. In bastion motar is S and it has a hold. so think about what it'd be like without a hold…
Did they nerf the aspects or is there another reason why your stats on them are higher than mine? E.g. the Zagreus shield gives me only 10% damage reduction. I don't have the Nemesis sword on lvl 5 yet but on lvl 4 it would be 26% crit chance. Doesn't think it goes up to 35% then, probably 30%. Just wondering 🙂
This may have been asked and answered further down in the comments, but it is a lot to read through. I was wondering if the Achilles aspect for the Spear also makes for a sick combo with Demeter's cast? Since, theoretically, that +150% would apply to the entire duration of the cast? And if you luck out with the Artemis/Demeter Duo that makes the cast track better and faster, it could be devastating. At least, in theory.
When you say poison you mean Dyonisis yes?
Eris and Hazard bomb is the shit right now.
Super helpful
Bro I rebound reload even before the aspects, I advise you to put reload on L1 for example and after a few runs you will reload manually in every idle situation. The joystick buttons are indeed awkward, in my opinion in every example save for locking on targets in souls games. I think it's the catalog that is bound to L1 by default anyways so just swap reload with catalog and pwn some noobs.
Hestia should be S tier as well, simple and strong, after the long winter update once you get 5 rocket special shot, it become an S+ tier
I do think bow is the weakest weapon over all, the main reason is they mush be charge to attack, special is nearly useless besides chiron aspect,
the biggest down side is lack of aoe and low damage rush attack, hope they would buff these bows in the future. Imo Chiron is overall the best should only rate B tier, the others are just C
Is it common not to use bull rush much outside of chaos aspect? I use it like mad. It's a big part of what makes shield the top weapon for me.
Great vid man. I just wish titan blood was easy enough to get that I could actually experiment a bit 🙁 I haven't killed Hades yet, so I get basically no blood to work with… hopefully they change that.
where do you buy the aspects i don't get it :/
Great video Paul. You've been a big help getting me going early on and even more of a help as I've been working on increasing my heat. Awesome content man
I agree to most of the list, although for me (Playing Hardcore with 15+ Heat) Achillis Spear is by far the best one at SS placement followed close with the current state of Zeus Shield on last patch.
just letting you know that your timestamp for the normal bow is set to 12:36 instead of 20:38, had me confused there why youre still talking about a shield when the timestamp said bow.
other than that, great videos! im learning a lot about the game from your videos 🙂
You were talking about the trident to damn long lmao i get it go on
How did you fix your fps? I have a huge pc and 30 fps only
Best ways to get more then the initial 5 titanblood?
im bad at game which weapon should i use ?
This needs to be updated
awesome channel for HADES content, liked the video so much!
I love Poseidon's aspect on the sword, getting Artemis' cast which has a nice base crit chance couples nicely with the extra cast damage. I've beaten the game a few times using cast only builds, it's a blast
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When I was playing with the Hestia aspect, I felt like there was sort of a "grace period" when you run out of ammo, where you can still manually reload before the automatic one kicks-in.
(I haven´t really tested it, but I´m like 60/40 sure it works. 😀 )
Potentially a silly question, but I recently picked up the game again after about six months and got my first Titan Blood. Had already completed a bunch of prophecies as soon as I unlocked the list (the house contractor was new to me!), so I was able to fully upgrade the first aspect of one weapon (Spear). I haven't been offered any more Titan Blood since those first five. After doing some research, it sounds like I may need to finish the game and start playing on higher heat. But I don't fully understand the system. I would LOVE a guide breaking down the basic loop of the game. Before your first win, after you win for the first time, as you progress through heat. What kinds of things are you trying to progress each time? (I've reached Hades twice now, hoping to beat him for the first time tonight).
Achillis aspect of the spear is a pain in the ass on second biom and especially fighting against hydras is basicly fighting in the lava all fight
how do i get access to these upgrades i have 9 titan blood
Awesome stuff Jawless
Heresy, Hades Aspect for spear is the best one, you only need to hit it once then you have like 10 seconds of free 150% damage for spear attacks, it's insane.
You don't even need to "use" spinning attacks, just use it once to mark enemies and proceed to play normally, in most cases it's so much stronger than Achilles, specially if you grab a good hammer upgrade for special attacks, like explosive spear, not to mention that Achilles only grants 2 hits, so you'll need to constantly reapply.
I love the "Barry the Butcher" build for Nemesis aspect. It's completely mindless but World Splitter + Heart Rend + Clean Kill is goddam hysterical for seeing 1k+ crits. You chunk Hades so hard and it takes so little effort. For anyone wanting to try it just start with Aphrodite charm and grab her Attack then put on Artemis after and keep it on until Styx, you should get all the Artemis stuff you need to have massive crits by then and just pray for World Splitter from your hammers. Only build I've played that was more mindless was Hunting Rifts with Posiedon Sword (in which I also got an 80% cast damage epic Chaos boon).
is there a reason this reminds me of one of the dopest sleeper titles ive ever played? Bastion?
You're undervalueing the Hades Spear quite a bit. Yes, charging the spin while in a pile of enemies is hard, but the debuff to them lasts a long time and all you have to do is charge it while they are spawning. If you just use the sweep to spawn camp enemies, you can easily kill them with the bonus damage before the debuff wears off. This is quite a bit harder against bosses, of course, but the same thing applies to the Achilles spear, since unlike Poseidon and Hera it doesn't have a way to get your bloodstones back quickly. Hades spear benefits from quick charge, of course, but the giant sweep should also be noted because it stacks with it's own debuff and hits basically everything on the screen for 300+ damage with no boons. The achilles spear is overall probably still the best spear, but putting Hades Spear all the way down in D tier is just nonsense.
I'd also put chiron bow a lot lower, because while it is super powerful with the right synergy, Chiron Bow has a major weakness that it is excruciatingly single-target. This makes you VERY susceptible on higher heat to getting overwhelmed with swarms of enemies. Trying to do Advanced Barge of Death with Chiron bow is a nightmare.